Welcome to Coffee Talk! Let’s start off the day by discussing whatever is on your (nerd chic) mind. Every morning I’ll kick off a discussion and I’m counting on you to participate in it. If you’re not feelin’ my topic, feel free to start a chat with your fellow readers and see where it takes you. Whether you’re talking about videogames, former light heavyweight champion Tomasz Adamek schooling Chris Arreola (a really fat heavyweight), Javier Vazquez sucking in Yankee pinstripes, or today’s BlackBerry announcements, Coffee Talk is the place to do it.
Yes, today’s column was totally inspired by Naughty by Nature’s “O.P.P.”, which has been stuck in my head for the last hour. Anyway, I wanted to see what your issues were with DLC. Perhaps I’m getting soft in my advanced age, but I’m not really angry about things like DLC on day one or DLC on a retail disc being unlocked over time. “Features” like that piss some gamers off. I can see why, but I also see how these types of DLC are useful in halting used-game sales.
Like I said, I don’t have a problem with these DLC deterrents, if you will (said like Dusty Rhodes). How do you feel about them? Do they irritate you? Do they make you not want to buy certain products? Or are they an acceptable nuisance? Maybe you’re like me and it doesn’t really bother you? Share your thoughts on the matter (please)!
I don't have an issue with DLC. I think the only time i had an issue with was with Fight Night Round 4. The promoted that game around ODH and ODH was part of the marketing tour but when the game shipped, guess who wasn't on it? He got released on a $10.00 DLC a few months later. Why promote the game with someone or something that's going to be DLC.
@boxing
yes, Adamek deserved to win. Arreola is good but i think he's lazy. I wonder what this does for this confidence since he kept claiming that he was in the best shape of his life.
Angulo was good too but i expected Angulo to win.
The Kessler fight was good too, thank god kessler won. Now i get to see Abraham beat up on Froch next.
@tokz_21 Arreola did look like he was in the best shape of his professional boxing career. He certainly looked better than he did against Klitschko. I really thought Adamek was going to get jobbed out of that fight. I'm happy he won.
Froch is such a cry baby. It's funny that he complained that he would have gotten the decision in England.
I hate being sold a code to unlock content on my disc. I refuse to purchase any content like that.
I hate Day 1 DLC. Luckily no Day 1 DLC has been integral to a title yet. Unless you count Limited Edition BC2.
I like the second hand market. It keeps game prices in check. The entertainment industry as a whole for some reason thinks they should be immune to it. That said I don't have an issue with a dev or pub offering some kind of extra content to the original owner. As long as said content doesn't affect the game. Similar to how an auto warranty won't transfer.
@Ray
no nexus 1 for Verizon and Google is no longer looking in to the 3G issues associated with the device. I think that might have been their last jaunt in consumer sales.
@smartguy Verizon doesn't need the Nexus One. The HTC Incredible is a better phone. The 3G issue is being somewhat misreported. From what I've heard, the improvements in FroYo will address it.
I don't mind DLC. Generally because I just don't buy it. I can't recall ever buying DLC. I didn't buy anf of the Fallout. I just don't play a game long enough or often enough to merit an extra purchase. I think I bought some Armor on Dead Space but it didnt really do anything so it was a waste.
@rpad
His conditioning looked great compared to the Klitchsko fight. He gave it all but it looks like he needs to work more on his balance or stance. He looked like he was flopping all over the place when he was chasing after Adamek.
Froch makes European fighters look bad and make American bookers not bring them into good cards here in the U.S.
I'm a glutton for DLC punishment.
I don't have any issues with DLC content, I also have not had any games that have used day one DLC. My issue lies with DRM. When my internet went out a couple weeks ago I was not happy to find out that I could not play any of my XBL games because those games were only seen as trial versions until I was properly hooked back up to the internet.
Overall though I like when games come with DLC, to me day one DLC could be definitely annoying, but it also tells me that the company has a continuing relationship with the game they created and that they won't just drop it at a whim. At least that is the feeling I get from some DLC. I feel like Infinity Ward let MW go for the most part and there were lots of issues that people heard about when the game first came out that IW just didn't even mess with. They created the game so what else should the consumer expect from them in regards to upkeep of the game?? DLC is a way that I see a company being able to at least fake their continued interest in keeping one of their games current and still playable, in other words- they care because they create more content for the game after the regular game is released
@tokz_21 I don't know how much better he can get. I think HBO will keep him around as a gatekeeper. I love his post-fight interviews. They're classy and profane at the same time.
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The O is for other
And the P is for people
The other P
Well that's not that simple
OPP = Orleans Parish Prison. You do not want to be there.
@Ray
I don't think the Incredible on its own caused the N1 Vz CDMA to be canned. Wonder if either makes it to Sprint?
@smartguy Really? Why would Verizon offer the Nexus One? The price point would be very close and the Incredible has numerous advantages. It makes no sense to offer both. Sprint is still on track to offer the Nexus One.
Did you guys notice that the NFL schedules have been made to have division games on week 17? That's a great idea to stop teams from resting people the last couple of weeks.
@RROD
yes i saw that, it also is good for fantasy football too. My league's season usually ended on week 15 to prevent people being cheated of points by NFL team's resting their starters.
@ Topic;
Copy and paste what Smartguy said here.
PSA: Video Games, California and the Supreme Court-
http://www.videogamevoters.org/blog/entry/breakin…
-M
@Ray
Wouldn't Google be the one offering the Nexus One though?
@Ray
What Sandrock said. I really think it is merely hesitance on a CDMA unit. I think they might try again next year with the LTE. Besides, CDMA seems to not fit the Google mode of thinking. I think the same will happen with Sprint though. Unless they sell a 4G capable one.
@Sandrock323 Yes, you're correct. From Google's perspective, it would be silly to offer the phone when a similarly priced and superior model is available. Google recently changed the Nexus One site; it used to say "coming soon" under Verizon, but now suggest the Droid and Droid Incredible.
@smartguy The CDMA Nexus One already passed through the FCC. Sprint already issued a press release about the phone. Sure, everyone can change their minds, but it looks like it's still on the way.
@Ray
Isn't Sprint getting an HTC device this summer that is 4G and Android? The specs look mighty fine too. Looks like the same thing with the Incredible (awesome name) vs N1 on VZW.
HTC EVO I believe it is.
@Iceman
I can't believe they got a writ for that. Damn.
@smartguy The HTC Evo 4G is a summer release — probably August.
https://rpad.tv/2010/03/23/sprint-announces-htc-ev…
Sprint said that the Nexus One is coming "soon".
https://rpad.tv/2010/03/17/sprint-announces-google…
The case is Schwarzenegger v. Video Software Dealers Association, 08-1448.
Sounds like a new movie to me!!
@ Slicky and Smartguy;
I hope the do make a movie out of it. They did it for Larry Flynt and it was … interesting. But since this is Ahnold and the video game industry, they should make a game about it. Maybe they can do a cross between Pheonix Wright, Commando (the movie) and Call of Duty for game play and metaphorical context. The bullet fodder would be lawyers, anal parents, and politicians with Schwarzenegger as the last boss.
-M
@Iceman
I thought Larry Flynt was pretty good. Vulgar, but it was his right damnit lol!
One request about the parents….they have to be very dumb and irresponsible.
I wish there was a more consistent pricing model for DLC. It seems like some companies offer you the same amount of content as others for a higher price. Of course, when people are willing to pay those prices (a la the $15 map pack for MW2), it's gonna drive all of the DLC pricing up.