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Today is Shigeru Miyamoto’s birthday! The legendary Nintendo game designer has been making amazing videogames for decades. Few people in the world perform at such a high level for so long, especially in entertainment. He’s truly incredible. I’m not saying he does it all by himself, but a significant part of what makes Nintendo so great and lovable is Shigeru Miyamoto’s “magic”. To me, he’s the Jim Henson or Steve Jobs of videogames.
Let’s celebrate this gaming treasure by talking about your favorite Shigeru Miyamoto games and what he means to you as a gamer. Fire away!
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I used to think that Yu Suzuki and Miyamoto were on the same level. I'm fairly certain I'm wrong I'm about that haha.
I know I give console gaming a hard time (the new model bothers me) but I appreciate what ppl like Miyamoto and Kojima produce.
I mean, can anyone really say anything other than Super Mario Bros?
It's hard to put into words how awesome that game was.
Legend of Zelda, Starfox, and Mario. I love all these franchises.
@rpad since you made the comparison, do you think that Nintendo will be teh doomed if and when he decides to hang it up?
That's a good question I hadn't thought about before, especially since I think he is better/greater than the other two people to whom he was compared.
Nah. Similar situation to Steve Jobs. The brand is too strong and there are too many talented people at Nintendo.
I still love the Legend of Zelda games. Otherwise, our Nintendo systems are mostly for the wife.
At some point (most likely next year), I'll have to hook the Wii back up and just drop the Xbox controller for a while. I would love to play New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Galaxy 2 (even though I was pretty "meh" on the first one), and definitely Skyward Sword.
Thank you, Shigeru and happy birthday.
-M
New Super Mario Bros. was good for a playthrough. The 4 person co-op seemed cool, but never had the chance to play with more than 2 (and my wife is better at L4D than platformers so that didn't last long either). I'm also looking to play Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Donkey Kong, and Kirby. I just got Epic Mickey, and that one looked like fun too. Maybe once I'm done with all those Skyward Sword will be cheap enough for me.
That's a tough one since there are so many choices. I'd probably have to say the game boy and N64 were the most influential for me, with Starfox 64 and Super Mario Bros. 64 or Wave Race being played a ton. Also for his part in producing Pokemon Red/Blue/Green, even though I think of Junichi Masuda first when it comes to Pokemon, I know Miyamoto played a part in that first generation too. As much as I like the history of id software for bringing us first person shooters, Miyamoto influences just about everyone out there who is making games we love now, as well as still making awesome games. I usually think Jaffe has a pretty good list of games under his belt, but that pales in comparison to Miyamoto.
He's pretty much what jesus is to the christian religion, or Drew Brees is to the Saints, or Lindsay Lohan is to the DUI. He pretty much runs shit, and nothing but good things can be said about the man. Long story short, in college, he roomed with Chuck Norris and The World's Most Interesting Man while tutoring the Old Spice Guy.
That reminds me. I have a quick interview with the Dos Equis dude that I never posted….
I want to see a Normal Rockwell-style painting depicting what you described in your last sentence. Can someone please make this happen?
-M
Serious question: Why in the hell does every hip/hop or pop song have The artist and then (featuring so and so)? I know it sounds like something Larry David would bitch about but come on! I looked and saw that Drake, whoever the hell that is, has a new album and it features Rihanna on a single. So this guy needs her to sell the album? The more names on an album the better it will do? Don't those kinds of movies typically suck?
For what it's worth, I only know who Rihanna is because she got mashed up by some guy I can't remember who I'm sure has been vaulted into acclaim since.
Dear god I'm getting old.
That doesn't really bother me. In wrestling terms, it's one artist giving "the rub" to another. A lot of people heard about Snoop Dog and Eminem through Dr. Dre.
Metal did it before rap.
Lita Ford with Ozzy Osbourne
Anthrax with Public Enemy
Ministry with Gibby Haynes
etc.
Before that, it was duets.
Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross
Rolling Stones with Marianne Faithfull
Dolly Parton and Kenny Rodgers
etc.
Long and short, it's been a common sales tactic for decades. The hip-hop market is faster and more competitive than any other music market ever. Dre saw success with it by introducing the world to Snoop… and again Eminem (like Ray said). And then, Eminem had success with both 50 Cent and D12 by doing it. Lots of other people (obviously) followed suit.
I always thought P. Diddy was the worst with it. The man has little to no talent and has made millions funneling gains from other people's talent into his wallet. However… that's the business. That too happened with every other music style as well.
It's always going to happen.
Big L brought in Jay-z and unfortunately more people know who Jay is. Which is unfortunate because he is terrible.
It's like typing in tags on youtube, the more you tag the more people see it.
A Big lesbian brought us jay-z?!?!?
Ha!
-M
Well, I have a few different angles to answer this from.
1, For the longest time, many musicians never got any credit for what they did. In alot of hip-hop and r&b music videos (just to stay in this vein), they would depict somebody singing certain parts and it was never them on the track. C&C Music Factory did that for sure as well as quite a few other people. In fact, when the video for "Nuthin' But A G Thang" dropped, it said it was just done by "Dr. Dre". It took like 2 months for it to say "Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg" because… well, I think the Milli Vanilli thing and laws changed.
2, Do you know who Carol Kaye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Kaye) is? She's played on over 10,000 recordings in 55 years. Many of which hit Top 40 and Platinum status. She was one of MANY studio musicians who never really got the credit they deserved. This happened and still happens ALOT!
3, What hip-hop is usually doing with it now is giving nods to either acts that they produce or people who helped them get where they are. Snoop isn't doing it because he doesn't feel he can carry a whole album by himself. It's not like that. Dre changed the game and showed us all that producing is where the money is (something Eazy-E taught Dre).
Chaka Khan has a ton of backup performance that she didn't get credit for. She's awesome. Also thought of Siedah Garrett, who has had success as a backup singer and also co-wrote Michael Jackson's "Man in the Mirror".